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Post by joshdoingthings on May 5, 2024 11:17:06 GMT 1
Before we begin, most if not all images from 1950 until early 1954 have stopped appearing. For the time being, I have placed most of them in an imgur post right here: imgur.com/gallery/league-sim-f1-1950-1953-7QciiAS
IIIIII’M BAAAAAAACKThis time, you can trust me to not abandon this, like actually. I’ve already done a lot of writeups for the races from 1952/3 onwards I think, though I’m kinda thinking about downsizing those in the first place. Been getting a bit of burnout, y’know? So, over the last 6 months I’m at almost the end of 1955. Why has this taken me so long without any major gaps? Well, it’s simple. The series I am simulating currently are: - Formula 1 (1950-)
- Formula 2 (1950-)
- AAA/USAC/Whatever Championship Car AKA Indycar (1953-)
- British F3 (1954-)
And… way too many to come. Is there a point where this will become unsustainable? Probably, and I fully intend to find where it is. When I said I am almost done with 1955, all I have to do is Indy, which I left for last because it’s a bit different to the rest. I’m hoping to add WSC whenever I can… but I don’t really know how I’d do that. Anyways, let’s begin:
1950
1950 marks a new era in not just Grand Prix racing, but motorsport all together. The creation of the Formula One and cheaper, feeder series Formula Two world championships created a large buzz around everyone who was interested. These people chose to ignore that instead of a “world” championship, it was more “European” championship, since the closest either of the series got to outside Europe was maybe Italy.
In Formula One, Pio Fabbro (37, Italy) and Arnaldo Maria (41, Portugal), who have been the leading drivers since the pre-war era are the clear favourites, though the former drives for Alfa Romeo and the latter drives for Ferrari. Christian Tasse (51, France) would be in the same boat if he wasn’t in a Talbot.
Other notable drivers are Fritz Schipper (26, Netherlands), a young star in the making driving for Alfa Romeo, Chandler Ware (28, England), the only fast looking English prospect driving for Cooper and Ermete Giuliani (36, Italy), Ferrari’s second driver. Looking towards the future, Sami Quijada (35, Uruguay) is going to have an interesting career in the coming years.
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Formula Two is very Scuderia centric, with 4/9 teams sharing that title. Like F1, the feeder championship is largely dominated by Ferrari (as Scuderia Enzo) and Alfa Romeo (as Autodelta). Other notable teams include Scuderia Achille Varzi, Equipe Maître and Soviet powered S.A.G which: Stands for Sovetskaya Avtosportivnaya Gruppa |
(I copied this from the spreadsheet so it… looks a bit odd)
In terms of drivers, the obvious top three going in are Autodelta’s Eun Song (28, South Korea) and Enzo’s Frankie Doctor (20, Australia) and Ramiro Leon (31, Argentina). A theme that will continue going forward is some drivers viewing Formula 2 as a retirement home, notable examples from 1950 being Dan Phillips (45, England), Tito Oberto (39, Italy) and Thibault Renard (41, Belgium).
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(Note: in the first few years, I only kept track of points paying finishers, being the top 5. Because of this, I have no clue how a lot of these guys did. I’m stupid.)
Formula One The early part of the first season is dominated by Arnaldo Maria, winning three races in a row to be runaway favourites by the end of the Swiss GP. Behind would’ve been Ermete Giuliani and Pio Fabbro.
The gap closed very quickly when Maria couldn’t make the end of the Belgian GP, putting Fabbro 8 points behind with two races to go.
What happened next I cannot explain. Maybe it was driver error, the car needing repairs mid race or just Arnaldo Maria forgetting how to drive, but he failed to score any points ever again. He retired at the end of the season, probably in shame.
Pio Fabbro didn’t win any more races, choosing instead to coast in second behind either Fritz Schipper (I’ll explain the name difference after 1952) or Sabino de Laurentis. He didn’t need too, he finished 4 points ahead of Arnaldo Maria and 6 points ahead of Fritz Schipper, who theoretically could’ve won the championship with some miracle drive.
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Formula Two This year saw the unlikely talent of Eun Song blossom, with 3/6 wins and 4 podiums total. It was in doubt at points, mainly after the GP of Nations where Javier Antunez took the championship lead by 2 points with his second win in a row. Much like Arnaldo Maria, he would crumble and finish third. Eun Song would win the Dutch and Paris GPs to clinch the title early, and a phoned-in performance from him gave Frankie Doctor his first taste of victory.
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At the end of the year, Arnaldo Maria, Yannick Langois (33, Switzerland), Christian Tasse, Arsene Olivier (38, Canada), Sully Horn (42, USA), Roberto Santorno (48, Italy) and most forgettable driver ever Xavier Mata (31, Brazil. Seriously, he never even drove) all retired.
Some drivers were improving rapidly, namely Eun Song (7->9) and Hayes Flower (22, Canada, 6->8). Eun Song’s heroics had seemingly inspired Rokuro Nakabayashi (23, Japan) to heavily improve race craft (4->6). On the opposite side of the spectrum, Thibault Renard (3->…3. That’s meant to be 1. Oh for fu-) and Sabino de Laurentis (5->3) saw the immense effects of being old, becoming much slower.
Only 3 drivers debuted before 1951, namely Francisco Sancho (21, Portugal), James Kipling (28, England) and Josef Junge (20, Germany). This will very quickly become a number that probably won’t fit into these writeups.
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Post by dinokea on May 6, 2024 5:28:47 GMT 1
Awesome to see a new F1 series on these forums. I'll definitely be keeping up to see where this goes
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Post by joshdoingthings on May 6, 2024 10:02:20 GMT 1
1951 As 1951 began, many drivers were up for grabs. Many of the old guard had retired or lost their skill. The best examples of this were Ferrari and Alfa Romeo. Alfa Romeo kept Pio Fabbro, but brought in Eun Song and Maserati driver Sami Quijada. Ferrari went a bit more crazy, Keeping Ermete Giuliani but bringing on Indycar driver Tony Hepburn (30, USA) and a relatively unknown Ichirou Sasaki (34, Japan). Maserati poached Fritz Schipper, while Enrico Plate gathered Ferrari’s leftovers of Sabino de Laurentis and Enzo driver Javier Antunez (22, Spain). BRM took over fully from Cooper, who would return at least once over the coming years.
Formula Two’s lineup was quite similar to last year, just with the drivers on different teams, so we’ll skip over that. Also I’m lazy.
For the favourites, who else would it be but Pio Fabbro. Despite winning in interesting circumstances last year, the legendary Italian was far and away one of the fastest drivers in the world. Sami Quijada and Eun Song seemed like good teammates behind him, with Sami being favoured more as the second driver. Ferrari weren’t in all that much contention.
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This is quite a contrast to Formula Two, where Enzo appeared to have an obvious edge over Autodelta in everything from the drivers to the car itself. The favourites of the Enzo drivers were Ramiro Leon and Rokuro Nakabayashi, with James Kipling seen as an afterthought.
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Formula One
The first 3 GP saw 3 different winners, with Eun Song winning on debut, Ichirou Sasaki winning the first race he finished and Pio Fabbro just winning. Eun Song’s championship dreams were cut short with two poor performances at the British GP and German GP leaving him pretty far out of contention.
I’m honestly not sure what to make of the last two races. I don’t know if I can count this as Pio Fabbro almost bottling it or Sami Quijada almost doing the same, but I do know that they finished tied on points. Going by most wins, Pio Fabbro takes his second F1 not-really-world-World Championship. Eun Song was also almost there, I guess.
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Formula Two In what I would describe as a shock, James Kipling began the year as the dominant Enzo driver ahead of Rokuro Nakabayashi. Truth be told, this wouldn’t last, and Rokuro would probably have been champion if he didn’t DNF two races in a row (although saying that, James Kipling failed to score any points in the last two races). Tito Oberto was the only driver who’d be able to so much as tie James Kipling in the end, but was unable to do so.
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Retirements hit Thibault Renard, Sabino de Laurentis, Ermete Giuliani, Scot Royston (32, England) and Leonard Ludwig (45, Germany who also never raced despite being good)
Ramiro Leon (32, Argentina) improved from a 6 to an 8, Amos Saunders (31, Ireland) began to really climb from a 3 to a 5 and Graziano Colombera (28, Italy) decided to be good (2->4).
On the opposite end of the spectrum, Tito Oberto and Pio Fabbro both lost two speed, putting the reigning world champion rated 6/9: leaving him vulnerable to losing for the first time (and Tito and 2, forgot about that).
Quite a few people debuted after this year. Notable ones include: - Baldo Crespo (24, Argentina, son of Ciro Crespo)
- Patrick Tasse (27, France, son of Christian Tasse)
- Brendan Kilduff (17, Ireland)
- Brice Lamarre (32, Switzerland)
- Dewayne Ward (28, England)
- Jani Nurmi (34, Finland)
- Jean-Paul/JP Gilbert (29, Canada)
The rest are currently unimportant for reasons which may or may not be brought up.
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Post by midknightdreary on May 7, 2024 14:33:52 GMT 1
Another F1 series? Nice! Are you still using league simulator?
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Post by joshdoingthings on May 7, 2024 15:57:43 GMT 1
Another F1 series? Nice! Are you still using league simulator? Sure as hell am! Anyways, it’s time for… 1952 This year promised to bring big changes to the Grand Prix landscape. Alfa Romeo, despite being the most dominant they had been in years, decided they were too lazy to update their car and left the sport in both categories despite being competent at worst in each. Pio Fabbro decided to immediately retire from the sport because of this. This created the grounds for a power vacuum entirely taken by Ferrari, who kept Ichirou Sasaki but brought on Fritz Schipper and Sami Quijada. BRM created the Canadian dream team with JP Gilbert and Hayes Flower, leaving Chandler Ware (30, England) to a depressing Jaguar stint that left him demoralised. Maserati replaced Schipper with Frankie Doctor and Eun Song, a young and powerful lineup which would (hopefully) put them in contention.
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Moving down to Formula Two, another Ferrari based power vacuum emerged. Enzo kept the exact same lineup as former champions are not yet barred from re-entering the series. Equipo Crespo bought a few of the old Enzo cars and repainted them, with Ciro and his son Baldo at the wheel. Most of these drivers do nothing interesting i’m honest. Finally writing down all positions though, so that’s great.
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Favourites to win include: - Ferrari in Formula One
- Enzo (Ferrari’s team) in Formula Two
How competitive.
Formula One Every single race was won by Ferrari, so unless I feel like retconning the Indy 500 before 1953 the record of one team winning every single race is already fulfilled.
Sami Quijada began the season with two wins in a row ahead of Fritz Schipper. Ichirou Sasaki was also just kinda there, able to win a race but generally the third driver.
With 3 races to go, Sami Quijada was 1 point ahead of Fritz Schipper. A win at the German GP gave him some hope that if he didn’t bottle it, he would finally be an F1 champion.
This simulation seems to really enjoy torturing people. Arnaldo Maria in 1950, and now Sami Quijada the last two years. If I could compare the cruelty this has shown to any fictional AI it would probably be HAL or Skynet or something. Fritz Schipper wins the last two races in a row to take his first F1 world championship.
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Formula Two This year was, as predicted, mostly Enzo dominance. Sakchai Bunnag (35, Thailand), who we have gone a shocking amount of time without mentioning, seems to be almost on the same level in the first half of the season.
Tragedy strikes at the BRDC Trophy. Ciro Crespo, owner of Equipo Crespo and father of Baldo Crespo, who had previously scored points in the season opener, spins. His car is hit by Bronislav Fedorov (25, USSR), and they are both killed in the crash.
After this, Tito Oberto somehow pulls an Ambrosiana win out of his ass before Ramiro Leon wins the last two races. James Kipling, reigning champion, appears to have lost his touch. In reality, he was the worst Enzo driver by far and won via hell from RNGesus.
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We have a lot of retirements this year: - Ricky Tod (36, USA)
- Tito Oberto (41, Italy)
- Amos Saunders (32, Ireland. Just when he became good too)
- Sami Quijada (37, Uruguay. Probably depressed)
- Malte Mueller (42, Germany. Who?)
- Hugo Soucy (43, France)
- Chandler Ware (30, England)
- Dan Phillips (47, England)
- Aaron Travert (30, France)
- Pio Fabbro (39, Italy)
There were too many +2 improvements for me to name so. I’ll just give you the major ones. JP Gilbert (5->7) will not be his last major improvement, Frank Giraud (5->7) sets him up to be a French legend going forwards, and Geoff Fairclough (4->6) decided to become truly F1 worthy.
Contrast this with the only -2 being Rico Holguin (38, Spain, 7->5) who has survived at Maserati by standing still.
Too many people debuted between this year and next again, so I’ll list the “big” names
- Justo Domingo (33, Paraguay)
- Johannes Geiszler (25, Germany)
- Sancho Oleastro (25, Argentina)
- Pascal Victor (24, France)
- Cullen Davidson (16, Ireland)
- Rino Nizzola (23, Italy)
- Jari Seppanen (22, Finland)
- Adalbert Essert (19, Austria)
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Post by midknightdreary on May 7, 2024 17:41:54 GMT 1
I'd be really curious to see your system for the upgrades & skill levels
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Post by joshdoingthings on May 7, 2024 18:10:47 GMT 1
I'd be really curious to see your system for the upgrades & skill levels Sure! Some of these might be a bit outdated or too far in the future for the writeups, but this is what I’m using currently. ![](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1122653358226939924/1237449885460987974/IMG_3643.png?ex=663bb083&is=663a5f03&hm=adb6463ff855b245f5dd5cb225a268c0a2b1f1c445d27bf5481f5b202b2eaedf&) ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122653358226939924/1237449891660304394/IMG_3644.png?ex=663bb084&is=663a5f04&hm=8ee38c6cf48cdb128aa73efeda50407c3bfde2fc92f91bfcb34ed186c6c0ccdc&) ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122653358226939924/1237449897163231242/IMG_3645.png?ex=663bb086&is=663a5f06&hm=6817398f32b793b797afa47ceba84504bdcc4b99fb60adbd082fa7b9f62e53e4&) ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122653358226939924/1237450375771197480/IMG_3646.png?ex=663bb0f8&is=663a5f78&hm=6b707b6f1e00109a92b450bcefb89aad2a27ce7416d3fab2d73a350049dcf931&) Everything should be self explanatory except the numbers in the last one. The first number is age, the next one is driver skill, and the last is safety which helps with reliability and in crashes.
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Post by joshdoingthings on May 8, 2024 16:15:45 GMT 1
1953 F1/F2 Yes, going forward there will be multiple writeups. It’ll be fine.
About that thing with Fritz Schiffer’s name, turns out “Schipper” was a false name he was going by for about 2 years for… some reason. RNG says nothing suspicious was found, but definitely makes him a bit suspicious. After this year, that will be in the background of everyone’s minds if it’s even still there.
Ferrari replaced Sami Quijada with reigning F2 champion Ramiro Leon, while Connaught signed 1951 F2 champion James Kipling. Eugenio Rodrigo (31, Argentina) signed for Gordini in a shocking move. I’m unable to find any notable signings to talk about otherwise.
Formula Two sees more Enzo dominance on the cars, with Rino Nizzola and Baldo Crespo moving there to seek certain victory. Rico Holguin moves down to Cooper to get his career back on track. Pio Fabbro opens his own team and hires former Autodelta driver Graziano Colombera. Rob Walker Racing, Veritas and Escuderia Bandeirantes also debut this year, with the last of these three using the same cars that Ciro Crespo drove in when he fatally crashed.
No point talking about the favourites, you know exactly who is favoured to win.
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Formula One Fritz Schiffer won every race. Every single one. He doubled the points of second place Ichirou Sasaki. The only other notable thing here is the tragic loss of Dewayne Ward and Enrico Plate’s heroics at Spa. Other than that, there is nothing I can say about this that you aren’t already thinking.
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Formula Two Another pretty dominant year, this time in the favour of Rino Nizzola and Rokuro Nakabayashi. Baldo Crespo is a fraud. Maître came out of nowhere this year to go from a backmarker to the clear second best team. Third best can be argued on.
Tragically, Justo Domingo would lose his life at the Pau GP, driving for Escuderia Bandeirantes. The more superstitious crowd would believe that Ciro Crespo’s crash last year had cursed those cars. No matter the case, Justo Domingo was dead despite being the most promising driver on the team, a trend you’ll see a lot more over the coming years.
Both of the top drivers won all 6 races. They each had 1 DNF, and so Rino Nizzola winning on his debut by snatching the win at the last race was totally fair. Rokuro Nakabayashi finishing 2nd in all of the F2 seasons he has raced in definitely stings, but for the first time ever Ferrari seem interested in bringing him up to F1.
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Gregorio Nunes (29, Brazil) took Bandeirantes as a learning experience, learning not to join a team with a death curse place on it (4->6). JP Gilbert moved up another 2 points to become a perfect rated driver.
Only Sakchai Bunnag lost speed at a rapid pace (7->5), including Indy. Debuts will be done after Indy
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Post by midknightdreary on May 8, 2024 22:12:22 GMT 1
No points for 6th, huh?
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Post by joshdoingthings on May 8, 2024 22:21:40 GMT 1
Its what was done at the time, until 1960 actually.
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