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Post by TheWho87 on Apr 2, 2020 17:54:16 GMT 1
What's the reasoning behind George breaking away from Joint Promotions? Things in the UK could have been very different due to the WWF situation in this mod. ITV wouldn't have received any contact from the WWF, well maybe not as much. So the TV deal talks in 85/86 would have been Joint, ASW and I believe Jackie Pallo's WAW promotion (not the same WAW as later). Indeed I'd replace George with WAW and if you want a Scottish promotion then perhaps Spartan led by Dale Storm. What would TV look like by 1990, well I suppose Greg Dyke would still have looked to dump wrestling from ITV. But you stiLL had some regional stuff. Pallo might even have gotten a full STV deal and based himself in Glasgow or Aberdeen. BSKYB would potentially still have their WCW and indeed would SKY have become so powerful with no WWF. Therefore I think SKY would have gone to Joint and/or ASW with an offer when building their programming...perhaps even have looked at a.n.other American promotion. Chances are the Crabtrees would still have deemed the fee received to be too low, which I've never understood as they went to then having no TV. Just imagine ASW or Joint getting the premier league style treatment though. I do think with ASW also at the table Joint would then have accepted any offer. So where would that leave ASW, perhaps back on Screensport or talking with Eurosport and being taken on there instead of EWF from France. Orig would of course still be on S4C, Finlay some Irish channel...ITV Regional one maybe. ITV still had WCW in 1990, first being shown on Grampian in January. So again points to SKY looking at something else stateside, regional ITV channels even had bits and pieces here and there. For Screensport, AWA could have still been their flagship US promotion. A surviving WCCW could have found their way on to SKY's sights. I don't think anything would have caused Joint to be much different up to 1988. American sport just didn't impact the UK as it does now. A flagging WWF could of course have seen the UK as a shot in the arm, but with things having failed probably wouldn't be on ITV from 87. Perhaps they'd have taken a slot on Eurosport, with the EWF still appearing around 1991. As for the NWA, the UK hated them..."we have our own world champion". My main starting point for the UK was All Star and Joint, I'm slightly torn between World of Sport continuing and them sharing ITV or All Star jumping to satellite leaving Joint on ITV with their ratings dying due to it turning into the Big Daddy show. The inclusion of the Scottish, Welsh and Irish promotions are to give the region a bit more going on, I like tryng to give each region something if possible. I wasn't thinking of any non-UK promotions being on TV in the UK at this point, if anything maybe Stampede as I've always thought they had a good link with All Star, plus the draw of the Bulldogs,but the NWA is nowhere near the UK or Europe, in fact of the two other alliances I've got, one is for the UK for those World/European titles.
I will admit this period I'm not great on, I didn't get into wrestling till the 2000's and the 90's in the UK are pretty much dark ages, I was mostly working off info from the mid to late 80's Where is Ted DiBiase? Arn talked on his podcast that DiBiase would have been a perfect Horseman. He's in Mid Atlantic, instead of jumping to the WWF, the NWA put the title on him, he could be a good Horseman, but I'm thinking of him being one of the territories big stars with Flair and Steamboat, I've currently got him down as the main territory champ.
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Post by ScotKen on Apr 2, 2020 22:38:05 GMT 1
Stampede's link was more with Joint, Owen wrestled Marty Jones, Bret worked Joint and of course Davey, Tommy, Drew, Chic and others were all Joint when they went across. ASW worked more with Orig, so you'd see the cross over there and obviously ASW guys went to WCW. I get the need for a Scottish based promotion, just feels weird it'd be someone leaving Joint. Joint did do two tapings in Aberdeen in late 1990 (at least it was Joint guys), but that was for Grampian...must check for footage of that, but that's an aside.
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Post by TheWho87 on Apr 3, 2020 23:17:26 GMT 1
I'd think Stampede would rather work with the promotion with the more appealing roster,if I were to go down the All Star split to satellite TV, I'd work that into a UK version of the AJPW/NOAH split, your either loyal to Crabtree or open to a better deal/opportunity with All Star. This can also work into a sort of working triangle between All Star, Stampede and NJPW, as I've seen a few All Star cards from the 80's and 90'ss with a few NJPW names.
It's trying to find that right balance between fantasy and reality, adding the fantasy aspect but trying to ground it in a believable reality, trying to balance period accuracy and some what if scenarios.
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Post by hailthebulldog on Apr 20, 2020 21:11:11 GMT 1
Honestly more excited for this potentially coming out than anything else right now.
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Post by TheWho87 on Apr 21, 2020 16:25:22 GMT 1
I'll convert what I have when I convert the real mod, but this is gonna be built from scratch so I'll start the main work after the real world is playable, then working on this as a side project, I hopefully want it out this year.
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Post by Mike Haggar on Mar 12, 2021 21:24:25 GMT 1
So how is the progress going?
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Post by TheWho87 on Mar 28, 2021 15:43:52 GMT 1
So how is the progress going? On a slight hiatus at the moment, mostly needs finishing off, just been working on too much of the main data getting that ready for a couple of projects. |
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Post by ogpistolpete on Apr 18, 2021 15:16:41 GMT 1
So will Hogan be placed on hiatus in the game, set to return at a different point in time? I think more needs to happen to really hurt the WWF into a bad position. More of their top talent leaving for different, uncontrollable reason might stir up the pot more. Hogan was undeniably the biggest star the industry has ever seen, which would still likely tip the scale to the WWF.
If you need help with some alt WCCW ideas I can definitely come up with some since I’m well invested in their history, especially when it comes to long term workers converting to staff, etc.
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