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Post by marc91 on Oct 26, 2023 11:51:15 GMT 1
Agreed, losing to Choshu would be better for Dustin. But knowing Choshu, he wouldn't have a competitive match and Rhodes would just be destroyed. Koshinaka would have a competitive match against the rookie, a solid one most likely
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Post by marc91 on Oct 26, 2023 22:28:15 GMT 1
WCW SuperBrawl 19.05.1991 St. Petersburg, FL
1. Barry Windham def. Arn Anderson (13 mins) The Horsemen have disbanded, as Flair is now doing his own thing and Sid is not controllable since he got humiliated during War Games. Also, Anderson and Windham are always arguing and Double A attacks his opponent, who turns babyface and agrees to face him. They would hopefully have a nice opener here, a crisp match that Anderson dominates, even though Windham reverses the spinbuster into a roll up and gets the pinfall 2. The Southern Boys def. The Freebirds (10 mins)
They had a match at WrestleWar and the Birds made fun of the Southern Boys for always being clean cut and never getting dirty, which would hurt their careers, then actually defeating them. This actually makes Armstrong and Smothers be more cheeky, they bend the rules a bit to hang with the heels and it works really well. Garvin wants to use a chair, but Armstrong dropkicks him so the chair hits his opponent and Smothers pins him to win
3. Dustin Rhodes def. Steve Austin (9 mins) Austin is here and he quickly debuts on PPV against Dustin, establishing himself as a heel. These two young prospect have quite a bit of time to shine on PPV, I wouldn't even indulge in a complicated story, just Austin claiming he doesn't respect Dustin as he was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth. This should be a fun, solid and refreshing match in my undercard. Austin gets a good portion of the match, but Rhodes wins it with a neckbreaker
4. Ron Simmons def. Butch Reed (w/ Teddy Long) (10 mins) The feud is pretty much dictated by the fact that Reed is leaving soon, also because Doom had a good run and it's also time for them to split. After their recent losses, Long sides with Reed and this turns Simmons babyface as a result. Of course, he goes over with a powerslam as he's the one that sticks around. Their match at this PPV was nothing special, so let's keep it short and sweet, no need for a cage or any other stipulation
5. Bobby Eaton def. Ricky Morton (w/ Tommy Rich) (12 mins) Eaton is enjoying a singles run and, after Morton and Rich failed to capture the tag titles, his and Morton's path cross again after all the years that R&R and MNX feuded with each other. It's a guarantee of a good match, plus Eaton accuses Morton of just using Rich, as he will drop him quickly once Robert Gibson is back. Here Gibson arrives with a crutch and discusses with Rich, so Eaton hits a DDT on Morton and wins the match
6. WCW World Tag Team Titles: The Steiner Brothers (c) def. Sting & Lex Luger (11 mins) Very famous match and, even though I think it's somewhat overrated, I am keeping this on the card as: 1) it got a great buzz; 2) it reignites the Sting/Luger issues; 3) it's great for the Steiners; 4) it's Tag champs vs. World champ & US Champ; 5) it was a good match anyway, so why not. Luger is offended for being left out of the Japan tour and seems jealous, here he hits Sting by mistake and Scott hits Sting with the frankensteiner for the upset
7. Brian Pillman def. Sid Vicious (5 mins) So, Sid is furious because Pillman pretty much costed him the War Games. That match also finished the Horsmen and Sid wants revenge on Pillman, promising that he will pulverize his opponent. This won't be a good match, but Sid is on his way out. He has already lost a couple times and Pillman can get whatever heat he has left here (better than pushing El Gigante, is it?), hitting a diving crossbody on Sid for the shocking pinfall victory
8. Ric Flair def. Tatsumi Fujinami (18 mins) This should be a bigger deal than it actually was, as it's a first time ever in my world and I am not carrying over the dull angle of the title unification. Still, they didn't deliver in the ring as one would hope knowing their value, but it was still a solid main event. It's a clean match, more of an epic clash, no shenanigans. Flair is leaving soon, but I can still use him against Sting on TV, so he's the one to win here and he gets the dirty pinfall on Fujinami with an inside cradle
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Post by kinnikuniverse on Oct 26, 2023 22:52:03 GMT 1
Hopefully, Flair and Sting has the proper blowoff match of their prime years to (temporarily) send Flair out on a high at the GAB. Like that, we can focus on Sting vs Vader and, who knows, maybe a dream series between Sting and Ricky Steamboat.
Can't wait to see how you'll tackle the earlier arrival of the cruiserweights and, hopefully, get that proper Steiners vs MVC dream match that ends with a clean winner.
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Post by marc91 on Oct 27, 2023 18:41:12 GMT 1
WCW Clash of the Champions 12.06.1991 WCW United States Title: Arn Anderson def. Lex Luger (c)
Double A finally gets some singles gold, plus Luger is free to do other stuff after a quite convincing US Title reign. Sting stops Ric Flair from interfering, but this time he's the one to hit Luger by mistake and Anderson wins the title with a spinebuster
Also, in the main event, Ric Flair puts his career on the line in a World Title match against Sting. Of course, Sting retains and Flair has to leave the company after shaking Sting's hand. Due to the match's stipulation, Flair will only be able to return to WCW if Sting agrees to revoke this clause. Remember this because, yeah, hindsight is our friend
WCW Great American Bash 14.07.1991 Baltimore, MD
1. Ricky Morton & Tommy Rich def. Robert Gibson & Bobby Eaton (13 mins) The story continues, because Eaton has actually convinced Gibson about Morton taking advantage of him for all these years. So, Gibson turns heel and sides with Eaton, because Morton refuses to betray Rich and keeps tagging with him. Gibson won't be here for long, so I can't really evolve this the way I wanted and the babyfaces go over. Morton pins his former best friend with a missile dropkick
2. Ron Simmons def. Oz (w/ The Wizard) (5 mins) Not a fan of Oz, but... I can bring this up in 1996 when the nWo takes over, because Hall and Nash are upset about WCW mistreating them in the early 90s. In order to do that, Oz needs to be around for a little bit, hence why this match tales place here. Oz is on purpose a ridiculous gimmick and Simmons keeps a hot momentum, beating him easily with an impressive powerslam
3. Steve Austin def. Johnny B. Badd (10 mins) Badd makes his debut and, while he wasn't terrible, for some reason WCW kept pushing him down everyone's throats. Badd quickly finds a foe in Austin, who is not impressed by how flamboyant his opponent is and takes a more serious approach. They wrestled in 1996 in the WWF and did well at KOTR, so there's a bit of chemistry here. Austin cheats by kicking Badd low and uses the stun gun to win
4. WCW United States Title: Arn Anderson (c) def. Barry Windham by DQ (15 mins) With Anderson being the new US champion, his former ally Windham is naturally the next in line for a title shot, as he defeated Anderson at the previous PPV. Double A is not thrilled about this and reveals that he was actually against Windham joining the Horsemen in the first place. Windham actually pins AA with a double DQ, but only after he pushes the referee away and so Andeson retains thanks to this Dusty finish
5. WCW World Tag Team Titles: The Southern Boys def. The Steiner Brothers (c) (5 mins) So, Scott Steiner got injured and unfortunately this means that the Steiners have to drop the belts. Thankfully, I was working on the right angle here and, after a bit of teasing, we finally see the heel turn of the Southern Boys, who take advantage of this without blinking an eye as the Freebirds taught them. Scott is left laying and Rick does what he can by himself, but he's hit by a spike piledriver and Smothers pins him for the title change
6. Brian Pillman def. Terry Taylor (w/ Alexandra York) (12 mins) Taylor had a quite decent midcard push so far, still undefeated in PPVs. While not a typical cruiserweight, he could still be included in the division due to his weight and we are apparently getting closer and closer to big news on the subject. Alexandra helps Taylor and guides through the match, but Pillman is really on fire lately and wins the match with a flying crossbody for the pinfall
7. Dusty Rhodes & Dustin Rhodes def. The Freebirds (10 mins) Allegedly Dusty had something to do with Flair leaving the company, so the least he can do is to step up and help me out here because it's still GAB and I need some star power. Easy story: Dustin beats Garvin in a singles match, then loses to Hayes and the Birds keep bullying him and make fun of him until Dusty comes back (on screen) and saves his son. Dustin plays the FIP and then hot tags his dad, but it's Dustin to pin Hayes with the bionic elbow
8. WCW World Heavyweight Title: Lex Luger def. Sting (c) (Harley Race is the special referee) (16 mins) Sting and Luger friendship is clearly deteriorating because they lost to the Steiners when Luger made a mistake, then Sting costed his friend the US Title too. Luger is also offended because Sting chose Pillman over him for the WarGames (actually WCW had Luger to defend his belt at the PPV) and because allegedly Sting didn't support him going Japan with all the crew in March. Luger is turning heel, as he's paranoid and Sting is tired of Luger moaning. Race is the referee of the match (we need star power), but he doesn't see when Luger hits Sting with the title belt and then Sting faints while he's in the torture rack, so we have a new champion
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Post by Moore on Oct 27, 2023 19:04:17 GMT 1
SuperBrawl 1991:
Having Pillman beating Sid there would probably be huge. Sure, Sid was still on the rise, but we damn know a huge guy on the rise in the early 1990s was unstoppable, while Pillman, shorter, would always be seen as the B player. I get the idea of having a simple exhibition dream match in the main event, but Flair vs. Fujinami without the titles on the line would be a smaller thing than The Steiners vs. Luger and Sting to the American crowd, I'd say. I may be wrong, tho. From a wrestling standpoint, though, that PPV would rock hard, tbh. Nice booking, mate!
Great American Bash 1991 (and prelude):
Good touch having Sting inadvertedly screw Luger off the US title. Sadly that meant Luger would become World Champion also in your diary... ugh. Poor booking decision, close this thread. Jk, I get it, Luger had star power. Crazy to see Gibson being the heel there instead of the other way around as WCW did it. OZ! You really went and said "you know what? Let's have you in a stupid suit just so that in 5 years time you can talk trash about it, mate". The Southern Boys have "paper champs" all over them. We'll probably see The Rhodes have a feelgood father/son title reign, right?
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Post by marc91 on Oct 27, 2023 23:19:20 GMT 1
Thank you! Yeah, I know, Luger as champion is not the most appealing decision but I needed a little something to shake things up. It's crazy how much Flair leaving changed everything, he created a huge void because no one else was ready to step up in the summer of 1991.
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Post by kinnikuniverse on Oct 28, 2023 11:01:06 GMT 1
Thankfully, Vader, Bigelow and Steamboat are coming soon, so at least, it will bring in some star power, especially Steamboat. A dream series between Stemaboat and Sting would be hype.
My gut feeling is that Pillman would become the inaugural curiserwieght champion, but honestly, with how hot he is, i personally would put the US belt on him.
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Post by marc91 on Oct 29, 2023 12:13:35 GMT 1
WCW Halloween Havoc 27.10.1991 Chattanooga, TN
1. Brian Pillman def. Bobby Eaton (11 mins) It's officially announced that a tournament will start in November and the first WCW Cruiserweight champion will be crowned at Starrcade: half of the matches are in America and half of them will take place in New Japan. This is basically a skirmish of the upcoming tournament, putting over Eaton as a threat to the division and keeping a hot momentum for Pillman, as he wins with an inside cradle
2. The Steiner Brothers def. The Diamonds (Diamond Dallas Page & The Diamond Studd) (7 mins) Remember what I said about Nash/Oz during the previous PPV? Well, let's apply the same concept to DDP and Hall here: Hall can come back in 1996 and seeking revenge for the way he was handled, while a huge part of DDP's success was the fact that he started from nothing and became a real star. They do what they can, but the Steiners are back and taking no prisoners. Scott pins Studd after a frankensteiner
3. Johnny B. Badd def. Michael Hayes (w/ Jimmy Garvin) (8 mins) Again, Badd will need some kind of push due to the lack of alternatives and because he will be for the next 4 years at least. They actually did Badd vs. Garvin here and something didn't click, it was an awful match. So let's shake things around and use Hayes, hoping that he would get some more heat and come up with a better contest. Badd overcomes the odds and wins with the wild thing
4. Steve Austin (w/ Paul E. Dangerously) def. Dustin Rhodes (12 mins) As we will see below, Paul E. is forming an alliance and he quickly recruits Austin, brainwashing him and talking him into being more aggressive during his matches. Paul E. says that Austin losing to Dustin on PPV was a travesty and so Austin quickly reignites the feud with Rhodes to prove a point to himself and Paul E. Rhodes has the deck stacked against him and loses to the stungun after Paul E. interferes
5. WCW World Tag Team Titles: The Southern Boys (c) def. Ricky Morton & Tommy Rich (11 mins) The Southern Boys have completely turned on the fans now (and viceversa), as they want to keep their dodgy habits because they awarded them the titles in the first place. Morton is quite disappointed, as he faced them the previous year and thought that they had a bright future. The Boys isolate Morton, then Rich gets the hot tag, but once again the champions cheat and Smothers pins Rich with a superkick
6. Vader def. Cactus Jack by CO (8 mins) Cactus is not a "name" in 1991, but I am pushing him a bit more than WCW actually did, because he's so talented and can put a lot of people over. Cactus cuts a promo on Vader, saying that he's often in Japan because he's afraid of committing fulltime to the company where he is, so Vader naturally wants to destroy him now. They have a slugfest and Cactus takes that bump from the apron that he took against Mil Mascaras, getting knocked on the concrete and losing by coutnout
7. Arn Anderson & Larry Zbyszko (w/ Paul E. Dangerously) def. Sting & Rick Rude (sub. for Barry Windham) (14 mins) Sting is chasing his title rematch, but as we will see below he can't get it straight away. Instead, Paul E. is forming an army and wants Sting to join it, but Sting obviously and stays loyal to WCW. Double A and Zybszko are ready to face Sting here, with Windham as partner, but Windham gets injured. Sting is fine to have a handicap match, but Dusty Rhodes (matchmaker) announces that he signed the hottest free agent to be Sting's partner. Rude shows up as a surprise on the PPV, hopefully for a big pop. Sting and Rude actually show decent chemistry and fight quite well, but at one point they argue about a tag and Rude just punches Sting in the mouth, so Anderson wins with a spinebuster
8. WCW World Heavyweight Title: Lex Luger (c) def. Ron Simmons (13 mins) It's clear that Flair left a huge void and this is what happens when you don't have enough stars. So let's be honest: yes, this was actually a solid match and it played well in the logic of Luger facing someone stronger than him for once; but no, this wasn't a draw and it can only be a pit stop if we want to be successful. Simmons is undefeated in single matches and goes close to winning the title here, Luger can't lift him for the torture rack but hits a clothesline and retains
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Post by Moore on Oct 29, 2023 20:03:40 GMT 1
Having a Cruiserweight Championship tournament disputed in those molds is frankly a great decision. To shift things a bit, the NJPW bracket could be held in WCW and the other way around, so that American talent would get over in Japan and vice-versa.
I'm just sad that we didn't see a Halloween-themed gimmick match here. I didn't expect a Chamber of Horrors, of course, but a Coffin Match or a grueling I Quit Match would be cool to see. Still, you had a nice PPV with a solid undercard and a great-looking tag team match in the co-main event. Ah, of course, and Vader vs. Cactus! Amazing things.
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Post by kinnikuniverse on Oct 29, 2023 21:12:45 GMT 1
I second the idea of having NJPW talents competing in WCW and WCW cruiserweights competing in Japan durign the tournament. Like that, people would be exposed to the japanese juniors against relatively well-known WCW regulars on american TV to build them up. Like that, american fans would know and care about Jushin Liger so that the Liger-Pillman final (yes, i'm already calling the final lol) would have meaning and big fight heat as a tournament final deserves.
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